Liberty In Peril

                                                                                              formerly,

                                                                                       The Llano Ledger

IviewUS Defective Product                                 4-6-18  ©2018 All Rights Reserved

The following complete extended email exchange with the corporate management suite of IviewUS, regarding a highly defective Win 10 two-in-one tablet, is posted as a public service.  The problem with this machine goes far beyond catastrophic failure of the Li ion battery, however.

The tablet was purchased due to low power consumption, long battery running time.  Kindly be advised, Windows 10 is a 64-bit system.  The tablet platform is 32-bit.  Iview failed to get out the bugs, consequently, the system had to be constantly rebooted.  Worse, Win 10 cannot be prevented from calling home and automatically updating.

Could never get into the BIOS to run Linux off a flash drive, before ultimately permanently installing it to replace Windows.  Instructions provided by Iview did not allow BIOS access even with a USB keyboard.  Consequently, never used the tablet online.  Didn't trust the lack of security.

Catastrophic battery failure as detailed in the following email exchange, and Iview's egregious failure to take full responsibility for shipment of what is hazardous material, is precisely why the decision was made to take the loss, post this entire email exchange:

Re: Contact Form
From  libertyinperil@riseup.net
To  Michelle Torres <michelle.torres@iviewus.com>
Date  2018-03-27 15:37
Contact photo
Message Body
Ms. Torres:

From the substance of your response seems I would be legally responsible
should anything go wrong during shipment.  That's unacceptable.  This is
clearly a defective product.  Should have been recalled for all the
reasons included in this long email exchange that occurred approximately
over the last year or so.

You have not indicated if in fact this device has been recalled.  Had to
have been many others who have experienced what I have with this
machine.  What you're suggesting as resolution is not acceptable.  Will
take the loss.

Will post this entire email exchange in my publication as a public
service.  Will also send this lengthy email to user groups.  The public
needs to made aware of this product's serious defects.

Tim Chorney, Publisher
Liberty In Peril
formerly,
The Llano Ledger
libertyinperil.com

On 2018-03-26 21:55, Michelle Torres wrote:

    Hello,

    Repairing the device is an OPTION to you.

    We can provide the shipping label if you wish to proceed. Only the
    technician is able to determine if we can repair the device or replace it.

    If you would like to send the device to us, we would more than happy to
    assist you. You would only need to put the device a secure packaging for
    transport. We will cover shipping and repair/replacement.

    Again, this is an OPTION to you.

    Please inform me if you would like to proceed and I will create your profile
    and send your shipping instructions.

    Thank you for your time.

    Best regards,

    Michelle Torres
    Wiltronic Corporation
    Email: michelle.torres@iviewus.com
    Tel: 1-909-627-9888 ext. 106
    Fax: 1-909-627-5188
 

    -----Original Message-----
    From: libertyinperil@riseup.net [mailto:libertyinperil@riseup.net]
    Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:21 PM
    To: Michelle Torres
    Subject: Re: Contact Form

    Is Iview providing the shipping container?  Paying for shipping?
    Accepting legal responsibility for shipping what the postal system or any
    other shipper may consider to be a hazardous package?  Moreover, you have
    neglected to provide an "RMA and shipping instructions."

    The machine has indeed been extensively mechanically damaged by battery
    failure.  Hard to believe the tablet is repairable.  Why not avoid the
    entire hassle and risk of shipping a hazardous package by accepting in lieu
    photographs of the damage I can send Iview?

    You could either replace this product, which should long since been
    recalled, or refund the purchase price.  Since I publish an investigative
    website that figuratively targets corrupt and abusive government officials,
    I am unwilling to risk shipping a catastrophically damaged product where I
    might be falsely accused of shipping hazardous material.  Just isn't worth
    the risk.

    Tim Chorney

    On 2018-03-26 20:45, Michelle Torres wrote:

        Hello,

        When the battery is done inflating, then it is ok to ship. Please
        secure it in packaging where it will not be tossed around.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: libertyinperil@riseup.net [mailto:libertyinperil@riseup.net]
        Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:51 AM
        To: Michelle Torres
        Subject: Re: Contact Form

        Ms. Torres:

        Took another look at the tablet after receiving your message.  Don't
        think the machine is safe to ship.  The battery has expanded and is
        now at least two inches thick at its widest point.  -- Thought at
        first it was just a thermal runaway problem.  Apparently, there is a
        chemical reaction still going on.  Has done quite a bit of mechanical

    damage to the case and screen.

        The model is IVIEW i896qw Win 10  2-in-1.  The serial number is
        1609-i896QW-BK-BE7340.

        Tim Chorney

        On 2018-03-20 00:08, Michelle Torres wrote:

            Hello,

            I am so sorry about the experience you had with our device and the
            customer service. Please send the device in and we will repair it.

            Please provide the following information to receive an RMA and
            shipping instructions; Model name of the device-
            Name-
            Address-
            City-
            State-
            Zip-
            Phone-
            Brief description of the problem-
            Serial number (next to barcode ex: 1707-MAXIMUSII-BK-HT4350)-

            Best regards,

            Michelle Torres
            Wiltronic Corporation
            Email: michelle.torres@iviewus.com
            Tel: 1-909-627-9888 ext. 106
            Fax: 1-909-627-5188
            -----Original Message-----
            From: libertyinperil@riseup.net [mailto:libertyinperil@riseup.net]
            Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 10:32 AM
            To: Michelle Torres
            Subject: Re: Contact Form

            Ms. Torres,

            Thanks for your quick response.  The matter involves the following
            ignored email repeatedly sent to your support department regarding
            the catastrophic lithium ion battery failure.  This product needs to
            be recalled.  Could have burned down my house.

            Tim Chorney

            ************************

            Catastrophic Li Ion Battery Failure
            From     libertyinperil@riseup.net
            To     Jasmyne <jasmyne@iviewus.com>
            Date     Fri 16:23
            Contact photo
            Message Body
 

            -------- Original Message --------
            Subject: Catastrophic Li Ion Battery Failure
            Date: 2018-03-11 16:49
            From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
            To: Jasmyne <jasmyne@iviewus.com>

            Has this machine been recalled?  Not only are there all issues listed
            below throughout this entire support exchange, the tablet could have
            burned down my house.  The machine was last used Friday evening, 3-9-18.
             Only offline as usual.  It was then shut down, left unplugged.  At
            some point in the next 24hrs., the battery overheated, destroying the

        tablet.

             Needs to be recalled.

            Tim Chorney, Publisher
            Liberty In Peril
            formerly,
            The Llano Ledger
            libertyinperil.com
 
 

            On 2017-06-24 19:01, libertyinperil@riseup.net wrote:

                Madam,

                There is no ESC key on the tablet keyboard.  Just like there is no
                delete key on this piece of worthless trash.  I need access to
            ALL the

        F

                keys to install linux as well as maintain the machine should there be
                any other issues that arise.  You have not provided a solution to

    this

                problem. If you are an engineer, then I must assume there is no

        solution

                to any of these issues.  If you are not an engineer, kindly ask

        someone

                who designed this piece of crap.

                Windows 10 was designed to work in a 64 bit system.  Yet, the
            system

        in

                the tablet is 32.  Have received error messages regarding this flaw.
                Apparently, the engineers who designed this machine did not work
            out

        all

                the bugs.  There are continuing problems booting up. Have had to
            try

        up

                to four times to get it up and running.

                With no F keys, how do I get into the BIOS?  This machine needs to be
                recalled.  The fact there is no documentation available is quite
                telling. None of this is directed personally at you, but to the
                corporate management suite that clearly has not done its job.
            Left

        you

                in the position of having to deal with an irate public.

                This machine was purchased through Walmart.  Apparently, they remain
                unaware of these issues. Then again, since ole Sam died all that

        matters

                is the quick buck.  Look forward to doing an expose on all this once

    I

                tire of trying to make this piece of trash at least marginally

    usable.
 

                On 2017-06-23 22:40, Jasmyne wrote:

                    Hello,
                    Please try pressing the ESC key as a substitute. Another
            suggestion would be
                    to connect a USB wired keyboard to use the F7 key.

                    Thank you,
                    IView Customer Support
                    (909) 627-9888 ext. # 204
                    support@iviewus.com
 

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
            [mailto:libertyinperil@riseup.net]
                    Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:04 PM
                    To: jasmyne@iviewus.com
                    Subject: Re: Support Request

                    Madam,

                    As is, the Iview tablet is a worthless piece of crap. Remains
            so insecure,
                    cannot be safely used online.  I ask you again, how do I
            change the boot
                    order with no F-keys?  How do I get it to boot off USB?
                    Windows 10 is absolutely worthless on this Iview.  Buggy as hell.
            Even the
                    cursor jumps making it impossible to quickly and accurately type.
                    As is, this machine is worthless, a rip off.

                    -------- Original Message --------
                    Subject: Re: Support Request
                    Date: 2017-06-22 20:49
                    From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
                    To: jasmyne@iviewus.com

                    Have created a live bootable linux mint USB to change the
            operating system
                    from Windows.  With no F keys on the Iview, how do I change
            the boot order
                    to make sure the Iview boots from the USB?

                    -------- Original Message --------
                    Subject: Re: Support Request
                    Date: 2017-04-19 22:13
                    From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
                    To: Jasmyne <jasmyne@iviewus.com>

                    Changing to an earlier operating system is likely a
            non-starter on a tablet
                    with extremely limited memory and storage.  Besides, I
            shouldn't have to go
                    through all this crap.  Iview should have made available far
            more data on
                    this machine online so users could make an intelligent
            decision before
                    purchase.  Passing the buck to Microsoft is disingenuous
            since

        Iview

                    contracted with them to produce this product.  I think a
            better route to go
                    is to not only publish this fiasco in my publication, but
            also post it on as
                    many user groups as I can. This is a failed corporate
            management suite
                    issue, courtesy of bottomless greed.

                    On 2017-04-19 21:56, Jasmyne wrote:

                        Hello Libertyinperil,

                        I can see how frustrating this is for you. What I would
            suggest is
                        uninstalling the program and install an older version. If
            the older
                        version can support the 100% non- cloud based function it
            could very
                        well be your best bet. However, you may want to do a
            little research
                        before committing fully to the recommendation. You may
            even consider
                        contacting Microsoft to see if there is some kind of
            administrative
                        function that can be utilized to avoid automatic calls home.
            Keep in
                        mind that you are using an end-user product and they are
            designed
                        differently for the average consumer who may not be as
            technically
                        inclined as you. There is always a method to the madness.
            Best of luck.

                        Thank you,
                        Customer Service
                        Wiltronic Corporation
                        13939 Central Ave.
                        Chino, CA 91710
                        (909) 627-9888 ext. # 204
                        support@iviewus.com
 

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
            [mailto:libertyinperil@riseup.net]
                        Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:37 PM
                        To: Jasmyne
                        Subject: Re: Support Request

                        Despite having turned off every call home setting I could
            find on the
                        Windows 10 operating system as well as using special
            software designed
                        to shut off all call home functions, the tablet is still
            calling home
                        and updating the operating system and apps.  At least
            trying

        to.

                        Doesn't complete the process because I shut it down
            before it can
                        complete doing so.  How do I permanently shut this update
            process down?
                        If not, the tablet is no more than a boat anchor.  In
            earlier versions
                        of Windows you could shut updating completely and
            permanently down.
                        Now, it does so as it pleases.  An unbelievably insecure
            operating system.
                        Also, Windows Defender can be shut down temporarily, but
            turns itself
                        back on.  Worse and even more galling?  Microsoft has the
            nerve to
                        inform the user this is how the system is designed.  Who
            owns these
                        tablets, the person who paid for them, -- or Microsoft?.
            What a
                        disappointment and waste of money.
 
 

                        On 2017-04-13 22:22, Jasmyne wrote:

                            To point click and drag would be the same as any
            other touch pad.
                            Move the cursor over the desired item, press the left
            bottom area of
                            the pad with your left index, drag the item across
            the screen using
                            your right index to drag across the touch pad. When
            the item is in
                            the desired area you may release your left index.

                            Our system will report back to windows post update.

                            The status quo is in fact unsuitable.

                            Thank you,
                            Customer Service
                            Wiltronic Corporation
                            13939 Central Ave.
                            Chino, CA 91710
                            (909) 627-9888 ext. # 204
                            support@iviewus.com
 

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
            [mailto:libertyinperil@riseup.net]
                            Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:50 AM
                            To: Jasmyne
                            Subject: Re: Support Request

                            Thanks for your information on the keyboard.  You did
            not answer the
                            other questions.  How do I point, click, drag, copy
            and paste on this
                            tablet?

                            You say, "I do not understand what you mean by " it
            may also be
                            calling home later

                                when the machine is booted up and online".
 

                            What that means is after maintenance is done, does
            the machine report
                            back to Microsoft?  Windows is notorious for mining
            data, using that
                            data, and sharing it with others.  Precisely, why so
            many have moved
                            to Linux and other operating systems such as Tails
            which runs over
                            Windows and is designed to prevent Microsoft from
            selling or sharing
                            user

                        data.
 

                                Customers do not normally want to hide their
            activity so intensely,
                                so it is hard to say how well your activity can
            be hidden by opting
                                out of the cloud based functions.  All of the
            'cloud based' features
                                are designed to make the average consumers
            experience easy.
 

                            Customers remain aggressively stupid vis a vis
            privacy, consequently
                            their data gets shared, sold, compiled for commercial
            purposes to
                            provide the corporate management suite with a user's
            personal profile
                            for marketing purposes.  Cloud based computing is
            designed precisely
                            for this purpose, not user convenience.  Lap tops,
            today, have the
                            capability of what used to be considered a
            supercomputer
            40 years ago.
                            So cloud-based technology is simply a ruse to secure
            more personal
                            data to be sold.  An increasing number of us object
            to this, do what
                            we can to force change to an unsustainable status quo.

                            Thanks for your time and trouble.
 
 

                            On 2017-04-12 22:03, Jasmyne wrote:

                                To use the blue functions on the keyboard please
            press the FN key
                                located on the bottom left of the board. If you
            are looking to the
                                Gold key you will need to change your keyboard
            settings to
                                international and use the FN key the same way as
            you would for the
                                blue keys.
                                To copy use ctrl+ c  to paste use ctrl+ v to cut
            use ctrl + x To
                                click and drag hold down the bottom left of the
            touch pad and drag
                                the desired item with your index on the middle to
            top region of the
                                pad.
                                This
                                pad has the same basic functions as any other
            touch

        pad.

            The only
                                difference is that the buttons are underneath and
            not visible on top
                                of the pad.
                                The storage is internal 32 G. If you need more
            please use an SD card.

                                I do not understand what you mean by " it may
            also be calling home
                                later when the machine is booted up and online".
                                Customers do not normally want to hide their
            activity so intensely,
                                so it is hard to say how well your activity can
            be hidden by opting
                                out of the cloud based functions.  All of the
            'cloud based' features
                                are designed to make the average consumers
            experience easy.
                                We hope that we have helped you understand more
            about your product.

                                Thank you,
                                Customer Service
                                Wiltronic Corporation
                                13939 Central Ave.
                                Chino, CA 91710
                                (909) 627-9888 ext. # 204
                                support@iviewus.com
 

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
            [mailto:libertyinperil@riseup.net]
                                Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:28 AM
                                To: Jasmyne
                                Subject: Re: Support Request

                                Thanks for your response.  It is unbelievable
            Iview provides no
                                detailed manual for use of the machine.  It
            should be online and
                                available.  No
                                guide for the keyboard?  How do I decipher the
            abbreviations?   They
                                are
                                not the same as on other machines I have.  No
            delete key?
                                Unbelievable.
                                  Yes, I was aware of the backspace key you
            mentioned in your follow
                                up email.  It is useful only for deleting a
            single character at a
                                time.
                                There are problems with the touch pad vis a vis
            getting the arrow in
                                the precise position to do so.  Worse, it is next
            to impossible to
                                try getting the cursor in exactly the right place
            using the touch
                                screen.

                                Yes. I may be able to opt out of most of the

        functions.

            Shut off
                                every cloudbased function I could find on the
            Windows 10 system.
                                Also used a software app to get the rest.  Still
            doesn't seem
                                possible to shut off maintenance. At least that's
            what it says on
                                the machine.  The concern is if it does it
            automatically, it may
                                also be calling home later when the machine is
            booted up and online.

                                I have not yet put the machine online since I was
            not able to
                                install firefox.  The reason for that turned out
            to be Windows 10
                                requires a
                                64
                                bit
                                firefox.  Your machine, although Windows 10, is a
            32 bit system.
                                When I subsequently tried downloading 32 bit
            firefox from a flash
                                drive, it would not do so.  You have to be online
            for that to happen.
                                Apparently, this is required by Mozilla.  I won't
            put the machine
                                online through any other browser than Tor.

                                Tor requires firefox to operate.  There may have
            been an update to
                                Tor that already includes an old firefox
            executable and that may
                                work without installing firefox first.  Haven't
            tried it yet.  You say:
                                "The storage may be challenging to work with
            because it is flash
                                storage that is supported with cloud based functions.
            The unit has
                                32gb of flash memory."  Will this machine operate
            truly independent
                                of the cloud?  If it won't, it's no more than a
            useless boat anchor
                                to me.

                                Regarding the double click function on the
            touchpad, I'll try it to
                                make sure it works. Have to be able to right
            click to use Filezilla,
                                create desktop icons, etc.. How do I point, left
            click on the
                                machine, drag and then copy and paste?  Have
            tried plugging a USB
                                mouse into the USB port.
                                  The mouse does not properly function.

                                Apparently, I wasn't clear.  Have done no updates.
            What I have done
                                is install CCleaner.  After I install an app, I
            use this cleaner.
                                Takes an enormous amount of time to get rid of
            all the garbage left
                                behind by installation of the apps.  Apparently,
            that may have
                                something to do with it being difficult to
            operate off the cloud.
                                It was still doable offline, although incredibly

    slow.
 

                                I'll be sure to set the priority at normal so it
            is not viewed as
                                spam.
                                Your company needs to change its spam settings.
            I'm sure I'm not
                                the only one who has inadvertently done this.

                                Thanks for your time and trouble.  Deeply grateful.
 

                                On 2017-04-11 22:24, Jasmyne wrote:

                                    Hello,
                                    1.The Quick start is the only manual available.
                                    2. There is no guide for the keyboard. The
            i896QW does not have a
                                    delete key.
                                    3. if you would like to avoid sharing your
            information you should
                                    be able to opt out of those functions.
                                    4. A SINGLE press on the bottom right corner
            of the mouse pad will
                                    serve as a double click.
                                    5. Some units take longer than others to
            complete the updates. If
                                    the unit is functioning okay now there should
            be no problem.
                                    Remember to plug in the charging adapter
            before any updates.
                                    6. if you have opted out of the scheduled
            maintenance option it
                                    will not update with -out you initiating it.
                                    7. I have included the reset instructions for
            windows if you have
                                    trouble entering the device in the future you
            can refer to the
                                    attached PDF.
                                    8.Firefox is what most of our customers use.
            We have tested the
                                    Firefox download on a like model and it was
            successful. I am not
                                    sure what settings you have opted out of that
            may be preventing you
                                    from installing Firefox.

                                    The storage may be challenging to work with
            because it is flash
                                    storage that is supported with cloud based
            functions. The unit has
                                    32gb of flash memory.
 

                                    Your previous messages were marked as spam
            because of the urgent
                                    flag you placed on the message. This caused a
            delay in response.
                                    Please do not mark your messages as urgent so
            that we can assist
                                    you much quicker. Thank you for your
            cooperation and patience.
                                    Please notify us if you have any further

        questions.
 

                                    Thank you,
                                    Customer Service
                                    Wiltronic Corporation
                                    13939 Central Ave.
                                    Chino, CA 91710
                                    (909) 627-9888 ext. # 204
                                    support@iviewus.com

                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
            [mailto:libertyinperil@riseup.net]
                                    Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 2:52 PM
                                    To: support@iviewus.com
                                    Subject: Support Request
                                    Importance: High
 
 

                                    -------- Original Message --------
                                    Subject: Fwd: Support Request
                                    Date: 2017-04-03 20:26
                                     From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
                                    To: support@iviewus.com

                                    No timely response to a support request?
            Kindly, add the following
                                    question to those below:  How do I copy and
            paste when there is no
                                    left and right click bar below the touch pad?
            Thanks for your time
                                    and attention.  TC

                                    -------- Original Message --------
                                    Subject: Support Request
                                    Date: 2017-04-01 17:05
                                     From: libertyinperil@riseup.net
                                    To: support@iviewus.com

                                    Recently bought an IVIEW i896qw Win 10
            2-in-1 tablet.  Have
                                    several
                                    questions:

                                    1. The Quick Start Guide provides
            exceptionally little information.
                                    Do you have a complete guide to this machine
            available online?

                                    2. Where is the delete key on the keyboard?
            There is no DEL key on
                                    the board. Other than for the alpha-numeric
            keys, do you have a
                                    guide as to what the symbols on the keys
            stand

        for?
 

                                    3. I disabled all cloudbased functions using
            the
            OOSU10 app
                                    specifically designed for Win 10.  Will your
            machine work as a
                                    standalone computer or continue to be
            cloudbased despite the fact I
                                    shut off all the cloudbased functions? --
            Privacy is important and
                                    I don't want my data shared and marketed.
            Precisely, why I use Tor
                                    as browser.  When blocked, run it through a VPN.
            Have not yet
                                    attempted to get online since there are
            additional apps that need
                                    to be installed before doing so.

                                    4.  How do I right click on a tablet?  There
            is no left or right
                                    click bar beneath the touch pad.

                                    5.  Had trouble shutting down the machine the
            second day I had it.
                                    Apparently, didn't properly shut Windows
            down,although I followed
                                    the instructions on the screen.  The next
            morning, found the
                                    battery at 2%.
                                    Is this a defect, or did I do something wrong?
            The machine itself
                                    felt warm to the touch.  Also, the date and
            clock function was
                                    corrupted.
                                    Had to be reset.  Have not had any problems

    since.

            The battery is
                                    charging and holding the charge.

                                    6.  How do I shut off automatic maintenance?
            Could this have
                                    depleted the battery?  Are maintenance
            reports sent to Microsoft or
                                    elsewhere despite the fact I shut off all the
            cloudbased functions
                                    that I could?
                                    If so, how do I shut this down?  I left
            unchecked "Allow scheduled
                                    maintenance to wake up my computer at the
            scheduled time."  Does
                                    leaving this unchecked prevent scheduled
            maintenance from running?

                                    7.  Have had problems logging into the
            machine despite using the
                                    correct password.  Keep getting an incorrect
            password error message.
                                    Sometimes I can quickly log in, other times
            have to make several
                                    attempts.

                                    8.  Tried installing Firefox before
            installing Tor, but got the
                                    error message Windows 7 or later required.
            This is a Windows 10
                                    machine and Firefox won't install?  Tor
            requires Firefox to run.
                                    If I can't operate this machine as a stand
            alone, it's no more than
                                    a useless boat anchor.  Thanks for your time
            and trouble.

                                    TC
 
 
 

            On 2018-03-19 17:13, Michelle Torres wrote:

                Hello Tim,

                We apologize for the confusion. We are responding to support
                questions in the manner we receive them.

                To avoid any more confusion, please contact me at my extension
                directly provided below.

                If I am on the line, please email me with your contact information
                and I will get back to you.

                Best regards,

                Michelle Torres
                Wiltronic Corporation
                Email: michelle.torres@iviewus.com
                Tel: 1-909-627-9888 ext. 106
                Fax: 1-909-627-5188

                -----Original Message-----
                From: CustomerSupport [mailto:support@iviewus.com]
                Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:04 AM
                To: support
                Subject: Contact Form
 
 

                Name: Tim Chorney
                Email: libertyinperil@riseup.net
                Telephone:

                Comment: Why are you ignoring support requests for a failed Iview
                tablet?  A machine that's had all kinds of problems since purchase,
                cannot be used online due to security concerns, then ultimately
                failed when the Li Ion battery overheated and destroyed the tablet?

Tim Chorney, Publisher
Liberty In Peril


Tim Chorney, Publisher
Liberty In Peril
Formerly,
The Llano Ledger
libertyinperil.com